Conducting Stedman - Revision history

LucasWilliams: /* Conducting Stedman on higher numbers */

2022-07-04T10:13:00Z

Conducting Stedman on higher numbers

LucasWilliams: /* Calling a Simple Touch of Stedman */

2022-07-04T09:57:57Z

Calling a Simple Touch of Stedman

ColinSampson: I have corrected the next calling position (to what I believe to be correct) when a single is called at Positions 2 & 11 to 1 & 10 respectively.

2011-12-23T10:14:42Z

I have corrected the next calling position (to what I believe to be correct) when a single is called at Positions 2 & 11 to 1 & 10 respectively.

Ranemills: /* Calling Positions */

2011-07-03T21:55:05Z

Calling Positions

Danielw.brady at 22:01, 27 July 2009

2009-07-27T22:01:22Z

Danielw.brady at 16:12, 9 April 2009

2009-04-09T16:12:51Z

Danielw.brady at 13:45, 11 February 2009

2009-02-11T13:45:24Z

Simpleigh at 13:17, 10 February 2009

2009-02-10T13:17:21Z

Danielw.brady at 23:09, 1 January 2009

2009-01-01T23:09:24Z

Danielw.brady at 23:08, 1 January 2009

2009-01-01T23:08:46Z

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 The standard notation for Stedman Caters and Cinques is to count the number of sixes which have passed rather than to call using calling positions for example if you take the 9th to a touch of Stedman Caters and call a bob at one, the next number to count is two not ten as it would be in triples, so whatever happens just keep counting. In most quarter peal compositions you should count up to 18 which is of course the number of sixes in a plain course of Stedman Caters however some composition will require you to count only to 16 or up to 24 which should be noted in the calling. However in some touches especially in the RW diary this information is neglected so you need to check where your bell appears in the numbers to the left of the touch.
-A standard and quite musical touch for Stedman Caters is the 207 in the diary, this initaialy puts the bells into a tittums coursing, then into handstroke homes and is the basis of many quarter peals, the calling is:<br />
+A standard and quite musical touch for Stedman Caters is the 207 in the diary, this initially puts the bells into a tittums coursing, then into handstroke homes and is the basis of many quarter peals, the calling is:<br />
 , 4, 6, 7 s10, 12, 13 (16 sixes)
 , s9<br />

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 If you are only trying to lengthen the ringing and are not worried about the music in the touch there are a couple of simple ways of doing it.
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-The first is to put in a Single in any calling position where you are unaffected and then repeat, this will give you a true 168 of Stedman with only two calls. This can be called from any bell and you can easily work out who will get the singles as only two bells out of the seven will be affected, whoever makes 5ths the first time will make 6ths the second time, and vica versa.
+The first is to put in a Single in any calling position where you are unaffected and then repeat, this will give you a true 168 of Stedman with only two calls. This can be called from any bell and you can easily work out who will get the singles as only two bells out of the seven will be affected, whoever makes 5ths the first time will make 6ths the second time, and vice versa.
 For example if you call the 7th with a single at 1 and repeat this will give you a true 168 with the 7th unaffected, the 6 will make 6ths the first time while the 5th will make 5ths, at the repeat the 5th will make 6ths and the 6th will make 5ths.
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   Position 	Plain	Bob	Single
 	         2	10	2
-	         3	11	11
+	         3	11	1
 	         4	4	4
 	         5	5	5
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 	         10	12	12
 	         11	1	11
-	         12	2	2
+	         12	2	10
 	         13	13	13
 	         14	14	14

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 	         12	2	2
 	         13	13	13
-	         14	13	14
+	         14	14	14
 	         1	3	 3
 == Calling a Simple Touch of Stedman ==

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 For quarters of Stedman Cinques the standard course length is 22 sixes an example quarter peal composition is shown below;
 Stedman Cinques
   D.Brady
-  2314567890E 18
+  2314567890E  6 16 18 19
- --------------
+  -----------------------
- 12345687E90  a
+  2143657809E       a
-         2
+  -----------------------
-         s
+         -     -  - |A
-         2
+            s       |
- 1324658709E  b
+  -----------------------
-         2
+              A
-         s
+  1234658709E       b
- --------------
+             2A
- a = 1.s6.7.8.s10.12.13.16.s18 (20)
+  -----------------------
- b = 1.3.4.s8.9.10.12.13.17.s21.22
 Note that the first course is only 20 sixes long.  Again this quarter can be shortened to a touch by calling a,b this will be 257 changes.

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 One really good hint with stedman is that if you call a single anywhere where you are unaffected and repeat it will double the length of any touch.
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-This can be used to your advantage, for example if you want to call something that will give people practice at bobs call SLQ, with a single in any calling position where you are unaffected, this single can also replace one of the bobs. This will double the length of the touch and give people lots of practice.
+This can be used to your advantage, for example if you want to call something that will give people practice at bobs call SLQ, with a single in any calling position where you are unaffected, this single can also replace one of the bobs. This will double the length of the touch.
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-If you use a single to double the length of a bob only touch, that comes round at the conventional position it will work and be true. If you add a single to a touch that already uses singles it will come round but may be false. Do not add singles like this to touches that come round in odd positions e.g. the length is not divisible by 12 or that come round at Handstroke.
+If you use a single to double the length of a bob only touch, that comes round at the conventional position it should work and be true, however this can sometimes cause the touch to come round prematurely. If you add a single to a touch that already uses singles it will come round but may be false. Do not add singles like this to touches that come round in odd positions e.g. the length is not divisible by 12 or that come round at Handstroke.
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 The 7th is unaffected throughout and the touch comes round at the end of the slow six at 166 changes.
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-A slightly more complicated touch is: 1.2.11.2.11.3.4.5.6.7.s8.12.1.10.1.10 and comes round shortly after at 173 changes, and contains Queens, Tittums & Whittingtons.
+A slightly more complicated touch is: 1.2.11.2.11.3.4.5.6.7.s8.12.1.10.1.10 and comes round shortly after at 173 changes, and contains Queens, Tittums & Whittingtons, the calling positions here refer to the position of the 7th.
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 Conducting Stedman is not something reserved for only a select few, it is achievable by just about anyone.<br />
-There are lots of different ways to call touches of Stedman, if you are aiming to just extend the length of the ringing this can be done very easily with very few calls, these touches leave the conductors bell unaffected, normally use only bobs and only pairs of bobs, this of course means that the ringing is less likely to go wrong.<br />
+There are lots of different ways to call touches of Stedman, if you are aiming to just extend the length of the ringing this can be done very easily with very few calls, these touches leave the conductor's bell unaffected and normally use only bobs or pairs of bobs, making the ringing less likely to go wrong.<br />
-If on the other hand you are aiming to call a musical touch then it becomes much more difficult as bobs and singles tend to come on their own or in long sets which not only confuse the conductor but can sometimes cause the other ringers to go wrong, where it then falls squarely on the shoulders of the conductor to keep it right!
+If, on the other hand, you are aiming to call a musical touch then it becomes much more difficult as bobs and singles tend to come on their own or in long sets which not only confuse the conductor but can sometimes cause the other ringers to go wrong, where it then falls squarely on the shoulders of the conductor to keep it right!
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